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Making Larger Batches of Cheese

30/06/2013 By Gavin Webber 6 Comments

Did you know that it takes the same amount of time to make larger batches of cheese as it does a smaller one?  The process is exactly the same, except that you double the ingredients and add some more equipment.  Just like baking a cake, really.  I’ve even talked to home cheese makers who make very large batches in their sanitised bath tub!

Want proof?  Well over the weekend I doubled my Caerphilly recipe and made twice as much in the same amount of time.  You can find my Caerphilly recipe here.

I used my 15 litre stock pot and filled it with 14.5 litres of full cream milk.  Heating the milk can take a little while longer, but it doesn’t extend the cheese making process too much.

Cutting the curd was no different, I just needed a longer knife and curd cutter.

Cheddaring was just as easy.  The slabs were just longer.  Milling was a cinch in the larger pot.  The only difference as was that I had to use two moulds, two cheese cloths, and two cheese presses.  If I had a larger mould, I could have fit all the curds into just one.

You may need a little more space during pressing, but my kitchen sink was sufficient.

And here are the two wheels of Caerphilly, air drying before I put them into the cheese fridge.  Each day I will wipe them over with a brine solution to help form the rind and to inhibit any mould development.

I am looking forward to when they mature in three weeks time.  This cheese is so moreish!  Did I ever mention that it’s one of my favourite cheeses to make at home?

So there you have it.  Doubling your batches at home is easy as buying a little more equipment.  The time taken is the same.

Who else makes larger batches in this manner?

Filed Under: Ingredients, Recipes Tagged With: Caerphilly, Technique

How To Store Cheese

29/05/2013 By Gavin Webber 4 Comments

Cheese is made to be eaten, but what if you make so much that you don’t know what to do with it.  You can let it age longer if you like, but what if you want a more subtle flavour in your semi-hard cheese?  Well you have come to the right place as this post is how to store cheese!

There are a few ways around this issue.  Once your cheese has reached maturity, it is difficult to eat an entire wheel.  I know.  Trust me, I have tried.

We usually serve up a quarter of the wheel which works out to be about 250 gm (or half a pound) when we have friends over.  If we know that we are going to share the rest in a very short time frame, I wrap up the cheese in greaseproof paper, just like the type you can buy for baking.  This paper allows the cheese to breathe, and stop it from drying out.  I highly recommend that you don’t wrap it in cling wrap (plastic wrap), as the cheese sweats, which spoils the flavour, and it could go mouldy.

Additionally, to stop them from drying out, you should store it in the paper within a sealed container, which helps keep the cheese moist.  It should be stored at around 4°C (39°F) to slow down any further maturation.

If you know that you will not be eating your cheese for at least a month, I recommend another method of storage.  That would be to vacuum pack the cheese.

I mentioned in my last podcast that I had a Caerphilly in the cheese fridge, and today it was ready to eat.  Look at the perfect rind.  I washed this cheese with a brine solution every day to stop mould from growing on the outside.  It was the best Caerphilly I have ever made!

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Caerphilly Cheese ready for storage

As you can see, there is far too much cheese for us to eat in one sitting.  Luckily Kim (my lovely wife) and I had two friends around to help us eat most of one of the quarters!  So it was out with the vacuum machine.

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FoodSaver – vacuum sealing machine

Here it is with the lid down.  A few buttons, one to seal, one to vacuum and seal, and a few adjustments for wet and dry contents.  All in all, easy enough to use.

This model comes with a roll of the plastic.  You seal one side, cut off the size you need, fill it with the cheese, then suck all the air out of the bag.

Here is a bag where I have sealed one side, ready for a quarter of the Caerphilly.

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And here is the finished bags.  Yes there are lots of plastic, but the cheese is so big that you have to make the bag big enough to suck the air out of it and get a good seal.  I then label the cheese with its name, and the maturation date.  Note that these ones have todays date, as that is when the cheese was ready to eat.  This helps a lot when you have lots of these bags in the fridge!

The cheese can be stored like this for over six months as long as you keep them at 4°C (39°F).  In fact, I know home cheese makers that use this method to mature their cheeses instead of waxing them.

I prefer wax because I can’t stand all of the plastic waste that is generated.  I usually make the bags a little bit bigger so that I can wash them out and reuse them for other foods once I have consumed the cheese.

So there you have it.  A couple of ways to store cheese after you have either bought it from your friendly cheesemonger, or made it all by yourself.

Does anyone have other ways of storing their cheese after it has aged?

Filed Under: Workshops Tagged With: Aging, Caerphilly, Storage, Technique

LGC 003 – Cheese Making Basics

17/05/2013 By Gavin Webber 8 Comments

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This week, in the absence of an interview, I talk about cheese making basics. I step you through how cheese is formed and what properties within the milk assist it into separated curds and whey. I also talk about cultures, rennet and salt.

The News of the week came from this link in the Scotsman.com; http://www.scotsman.com/news/scottish-news/top-stories/harrods-snaps-up-mum-s-home-kits-for-making-cheese-1-2924733. Well done to Ailsa and her future endeavours.

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The Cheese of the episode is Colby. I describe how this unique washed curd cheese is coloured with Annatto, and how many commercial cheeses are dyed with this food colouring.

There are many listener questions which cover topics such as Lactose free soft cheese, a swollen parmesan, sour farmhouse cheddar, and a correction to the quick mozzarella recipe. Keep sending them in, as I love reading them on air.

Thanks for to the many listeners for subscribing. It would be a great favour and help raise the profile of the show if you could leave a comment/review and rate the show within the iTunes store. In this way, more home cheese makers will become aware of this free resource.

Until next episode curd nerds!

Filed Under: Podcast Tagged With: Caerphilly, Colby, Podcast, Technique

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