• About
  • Contact Me

Little Green Cheese

Cheese making at home with Gavin Webber the Cheeseman

  • Home
  • Blog
  • Cheese Courses
  • Cheese eBooks
  • Podcast
  • Videos
  • Cheese Making Kits
  • Support Me!
  • Live!

LGC 003 – Cheese Making Basics

17/05/2013 By Gavin Webber 8 Comments

Listen to the episode below... (00:21:55)
0.75x
1x
1.25x
1.5x
2x
0:00
00:21:55
  • LGC 003 – Cheese Making Basics
Apple PodcastsGoogle PodcastsPlayer EmbedShare
Leave a ReviewListen in a New WindowDownloadSoundCloudStitcherSubscribe on AndroidSubscribe via RSSSpotifySubscribe via RSSiHeart Radio
This week, in the absence of an interview, I talk about cheese making basics. I step you through how cheese is formed and what properties within the milk assist it into separated curds and whey. I also talk about cultures, rennet and salt.

The News of the week came from this link in the Scotsman.com; http://www.scotsman.com/news/scottish-news/top-stories/harrods-snaps-up-mum-s-home-kits-for-making-cheese-1-2924733. Well done to Ailsa and her future endeavours.

cheese making basics

The Cheese of the episode is Colby. I describe how this unique washed curd cheese is coloured with Annatto, and how many commercial cheeses are dyed with this food colouring.

There are many listener questions which cover topics such as Lactose free soft cheese, a swollen parmesan, sour farmhouse cheddar, and a correction to the quick mozzarella recipe. Keep sending them in, as I love reading them on air.

Thanks for to the many listeners for subscribing. It would be a great favour and help raise the profile of the show if you could leave a comment/review and rate the show within the iTunes store. In this way, more home cheese makers will become aware of this free resource.

Until next episode curd nerds!

Filed Under: Podcast Tagged With: Caerphilly, Colby, Podcast, Technique

Unwanted Moulds on Cheese

03/05/2013 By Gavin Webber 12 Comments

I received this email yesterday about unwanted moulds on cheese which I thought would interest the wider curd nerd community.

Here is the email from Aida.

Dear Gavin,

I need your advice asap! I just made Havarti cheese 10 days ago, it is in the
cheese cave ( adapted freezer unit ), yesterday I noticed reddish, maybe pink or
orange at the top of the cheese, it is minimal and faint, the rind is a bit
oily,anyway I wiped it with vinegar salt solution, it is probably in a humid
atmosphere, maybe that’s what caused to color, but I am so concerned, because I
saw the same discoloration again today…is this dangerous and should I throw
cheese away?

Please advise asap, this problematic cheese is still in the cave
with other cheeses, will it infect other cheeses? or is this faint discoloration
normal, how do I know if it’s a mold or bacteria …dangerous or not?
thanks
Aida

Well Aida, I am sure this is a question that many new cheese makers need to ask, because we are taught from early on in life that moulds are bad things.  Sometimes that is just not correct.  Moulds are sometimes good things, especially on cheese.

The good news is that I believe that the mould you have on your Havarti is a red mould called Brevibacterium Linens which is found on Limburger, Brick, and Muenster washed rind cheeses..  However without a photograph I cannot be sure.

unwanted moulds on cheese
Caerphilly displaying green/blue and orange moulds.  Totally edible, and delicious.

So before you go throwing away your cheese, lets list the types of unwanted moulds that I have experienced in my cheese making adventures;

  • Black moulds that look like cats hair
  • Red moulds on heavily salted cheeses
  • Orange moulds
  • Green/blue moulds similar to P. Roqueforti, and
  • Brown moulds

I wouldn’t exactly say these are harmful in small doses, they just need to be treated correctly.

You need to ask yourself why the moulds grew in the first place.  Did you observe proper sterilisation techniques at the start of the process?  Is there cross contamination between cheese types (use a ripening box for mould ripened cheeses).  Did you use enough salt?  Was the cheese dry before aging?

Once you determine the cause, then you can take action.  For a soft cheese, you can save your cheese by carefully cutting off a slice of the offending area, rubbing salt into the wound, and hope it goes away.  For hard cheeses, brine and vinegar as you have already tried, or try cutting off the affected area, re-salt, then letting air dry again before putting back into the cheese fridge/cave.

All that said and done, a small unwanted mould will not destroy your cheese, and may even add flavour.  The only real bad one to avoid is the black moulds which should be treated immediately.  Not because it is really harmful, but because it leaves a terrible taste in the cheese.

Moulds have not killed me, and I am still alive. I have had all sorts of unique, but friendly moulds in my cheese cave at various times!  Just make sure you sanitize well, and clean out your cheese cave with a vinegar spray every few months if you want to stop the moulds from taking up house in your aging area.

Hopefully that has cleared up any misconceptions about cheese moulds.

Filed Under: Workshops Tagged With: Moulds, Sanitisation, Technique

Flocculation Method For Better Curd

19/03/2013 By Gavin Webber 8 Comments

Yesterday, I mentioned flocculation for better curd.  David over in Manitoba, Canada picked up on this, and asked me to expand.  By the way, David was recently featured on the New England Cheesemaking Co. blog.  You can read all about him at this link.  Well done mate.

Anyway, let me explain the flocculation method which is a better method for curd set.

The times given in most cheese recipes are great for beginners and experienced home cheese makers alike.  You can check for curd set by the tried and true “Clean Break” method, however there is a better whey to determine curd set for your cheese.

The flocculation method for better curd is a way to test the point of coagulation after adding the rennet to your milk.  Using a factor (determined by the type of cheese you are making, you multiply the time taken for the flocculation point to help you predict the best time for curd set.

So here is the process.

  1. Add your rennet when the recipe states.  Start a timer so you know how many minutes have elapsed.
  2. Leave the milk for five minutes, then take a sterilised small plastic bowl and place it on the surface. It should float.
  3. Then spin the bowl gently, whereby it should rotate freely.  Do this every minute or two.
  4. You should notice that at around the 8 minute mark you may find slight resistance from the milk, test by spinning every 30 seconds.
  5. Between 10 and 15 minutes, the bowl should become ‘stuck’, indicating that the curd mass has formed.  This is the flocculation point.  It may take longer, so don’t panic.  Keep testing till the curds set.
  6. Once set, don’t try to spin the bowl any more, just remove it gently and note the time elapsed.

Watch what I mean in this video.

Now you have to multiply a factor by the total time it took for the curd mass to set by a figure listed in the table below. (Source: Cheese Forum Wiki)

Cheese type
Factor
Swiss & Alpine types, Parmesan, Romano2-2.5
Cow’s milk Cheddar2.5-3
Monterey jack, Caerphilly3.5
Feta & Blues4
Camembert & Brie5-6

The factor (normally between 2 and 6) is multiplied by the time it took to reach flocculation point, giving you the time to cut the curd.

So if flocculation time is, for example, 15 minutes, then for Parmesan, total time since adding rennet to when cut is 37 and a half minutes.  This is the optimum time to cut the curd for the type of cheese you are making.

The Cheese Forum states;

“The reason for the different multipliers for different cheese type recipes is because the curd at time of cutting will have different strength, young curd set will more readily release water when cut versus older curd set will release less.”

So as I mentioned in my previous post;

A soft cheese usually has a higher flocculation time, and a larger curd cut, keeping more moisture in the cheese.

A hard cheese on the other hand has a lower flocculation time, and a smaller curd cut, releasing more whey for a firmer, drier cheese.

I hope this explains the flocculation method in more detail.  I tried this method during the last Caerphilly that I made, and I did notice an improvement in the curd structure during stirring.

Try it out on the next batch of cheese you make.  I would be interested in your results.

Filed Under: Workshops Tagged With: Curds, Technique

  • « Previous Page
  • 1
  • …
  • 11
  • 12
  • 13
  • 14
  • 15
  • …
  • 17
  • Next Page »

Follow Us via Social

FacebooktwitterpinterestrssyoutubeinstagramFacebooktwitterpinterestrssyoutubeinstagram

Cheese Making Kits

Cheeseman.tv Merchandise

Stay Fresh Cheese Bags Mug
0:00
1:0:07
  • LGC103 - Dan Leighton, from Extinct Cheeses to Medieval Re-enactments
Subscribe on Apple Podcasts

Archives

Tags

Aging Blue Brine Caerphilly Camembert Cheese Cave Cheese Press Colby Cream Cheese Curd Cutter Drunken Cow eBook Emmentaler Equipment Farmhouse Cheddar Feta Gavin Halloumi Jarlsberg Kits Monterey Jack Mould Ripened Cheese Moulds Mozzarella Parmesan Parmigiano Reggiano Podcast Queso Fresco Raw Milk Rennet Ricotta Ricotta Salata Romano Salt Sanitisation Starter Cultures Stilton Storage Technique Tzafatit Video Tutorial Waxing Wensleydale Whey Ricotta Workshops

Subscribe to Cheese Podcast

Apple PodcastsAndroidby EmailRSS

Subscribe to Cheeseman.TV

Podcast Reviews

  • Number One Cheese Podcast
    October 14, 2023 by Gene 321 from Australia

    Inspirational, motivational, incredible knowledge of cheese history and production, a great teacher with a twist of Aussie humor and an all round nice guy who knows his cheese. I’ve been listening to Gavin for many years now and gained so much knowledge and inspiration from just listening to his podcasts. If you’re interested in cheese, Gavin is your man.

  • I am so hooked on cheese making now.
    July 25, 2023 by Bennyssimoo from New Zealand

    Thank you Gavin. I feel like I know you as if you were my neighbor and you really got me lost in cheese now

  • Love it. Keep it up!
    February 12, 2022 by Corknip from Denmark

    Excellent podcast. Started the home making adventure last month and have been catching up on all the past episodes and YouTube videos. it is a gold mine of shared knowledge. Thank you!

  • So funny!!!!
    June 15, 2020 by purple quaqamale from United States

    Little green cheese is so funny

  • Great podcasts
    June 14, 2020 by Chrissy Curd Nurd from Australia

    I’ve just started cheese making at home,Gavin ‘s podcasts are so informative. I also watch his you tube tutorials. Thanks for your great work!!

  • An excellent guide to artisan cheese!
    January 14, 2020 by N.K.13 from Australia

    I recently became aware of Gavin’s lovely YouTube channel and podcast and it’s been incredible. His competence and comprehensive explanations leave you craving more. Much like a good cheese! Cheers Gavin!

  • Perfect for Cheesemakers of all levels!
    December 3, 2018 by Viki Leeasa from Thailand

    I love that this podcast does not just have helpful tips and tricks on cheese making, but also stories and news from the cheese world, as well as nice little anecdotes from the host.A big fan from Thailand!

  • If you think you want to make cheese, listen to this!
    November 30, 2018 by paulsaw from United States

    Gavin Webber’s Little Green Cheese is By Far the best podcast I have ever heard! A truly informative and quality production!

  • Great program
    October 9, 2018 by p37dg9q14 from United States

    Very informative and enjoyable podcast. I started at episode 1 and currently listening to 25. I’ll be giving cheesemaking a go in the next week. Mike J from Oceanside CA

  • Great podcast
    September 13, 2018 by nicole_elias from Australia

    I have a long commute to and from work and have worked my way through the back catalogue of these podcasts. Enjoyed every one of them and hope for many more to come. Thanks Gavin! Keep up the great work. Cheers, Nicole

Little Green Workshops

Copyright © 2026 · Gavin Webber